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		<title>&#039;Even if American olim come, Israel is doomed&#039;</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>UPDATE:</strong> Dan Ben-David rejects the Ha&#8217;aretz headline, which he says was a misinterpretation that stretched his original words to places he did not intend. If anything, he notes, folks such as the immigrant volunteer soldiers from Western lands are keeping Israel afloat despite its deep structural problems.</p>
<p>Regardless of the mistakes in this article or the debate raging at JPost about aliya, I urge you to delve into Ben-David&#8217;s research and advocacy, <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1137513.html">a good sample</a> of which was published this Friday in Ha&#8217;aretz.</p>
<p>I leave the post up only because I&#8217;m loathe to change (too much) the original record. But Ben-David says he emphatically does not mean to discourage aliya, and that his words were misunderstood and taken out of context.</p>
<p><strong>ORIGINAL:</strong> First, the JPost <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1261244335751&#038;pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull">claimed</a> <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&#038;cid=1260894118222">aliya from America</a> <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1261364541433&#038;pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull">won&#8217;t come</a>. Now <a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1139256.html">Ha&#8217;aretz is reporting</a> that even if it does, Israel is doomed.</p>
<p>Here, Ha&#8217;aretz reports on a lecture by Prof. Dan Ben-David about how Anglo aliya won&#8217;t reverse the destructive social trends that everyone seems to be ignoring.</p>
<blockquote><p>The boost in Anglo immigration in 2009 will not help ensure Israel&#8217;s survival as a Western and Jewish democracy over the next two decades, a leading economist told an astonished crowd of lone immigrant soldiers on Wednesday. &#8220;It feels strange to say this to people who chose Israel, but our current trend means fewer people will come here and more will leave as our position deteriorates.&#8221;</p>
<p>He told the crowd that Israeli society&#8217;s situation is &#8220;unsustainable&#8221; because of a &#8220;growing group which does not work, does not study and does not produce.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>This group, of course, are large swaths of the Arab and Ultra-Orthodox minorities.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t know <a href="http://www.tau.ac.il/~danib/index_articles.html">Ben-David&#8217;s research</a>, you&#8217;re seriously behind the curve. Forget the peace process &#8211; this stuff is what will make or break Israel&#8217;s future.</p>
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